tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post8273315485009205435..comments2023-10-31T09:54:02.360-05:00Comments on WAR EAGLE EXTRA: ESPN: Newtons discussed pay-for-play plan with Mississippi State recruitersAndy Bitterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00653266257744434147noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-60522261242313584402010-11-10T08:55:52.403-06:002010-11-10T08:55:52.403-06:00These Miis St recruiters need to come forward and ...These Miis St recruiters need to come forward and own their accusations. It is so easy to trash someone while you hide like a coward. They should put their name out there in the open and own it. Cecil does confuse me a bit. If I was innocent of this, I would be screaming it from the rooftops for the sake of my Son. His behavior is odd at best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-87989046469894442642010-11-10T08:20:29.743-06:002010-11-10T08:20:29.743-06:00The headline on the front page of the Ledger Enqui...The headline on the front page of the Ledger Enquirer is not a proper place for this story. I left Columbus, Georgia 10 years ago, but I do not forget the lies about me in this paper. The attack on Cam was created because of fear of him on the field. Cam is one of the finest men I have ever met. Leave him alone. D. Stephen Hollis, MDD. Stephen Hollis, MDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-50170335162652553992010-11-10T08:07:21.224-06:002010-11-10T08:07:21.224-06:00Our only hope is that this info has been available...Our only hope is that this info has been available to decision makers all along and they still didn't sit Newton. Sitting Newton would be the first thing that would happen if there was any concern of this effecting Auburn. But not sitting Newton shows extreme confidence, because if dirt is uncovered and the NCAA suspects Auburn knew anything or chose to turn a blind eye to violations then we'll be vulnerable to the "lack of institutional control" accusation.<br /><br />I just wish the bombs would stop falling and we could get a resolution to all this.Marmothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587702763493049517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-38657056639827091532010-11-10T08:01:34.051-06:002010-11-10T08:01:34.051-06:00Bottom line.......Give him all the money in the wo...Bottom line.......Give him all the money in the world....Money didn't make him a great athlete. He is the real deal. Sad for the sabatoge by whomever. Red Elephant Club?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-15666606566887613392010-11-10T07:48:59.292-06:002010-11-10T07:48:59.292-06:00Patience, Grasshopper, patience. The truth will c...Patience, Grasshopper, patience. The truth will come out in the end. The innocent will be vindicated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-6687311597418559102010-11-10T06:46:13.454-06:002010-11-10T06:46:13.454-06:00Yeah I think there is a definite argument that the...Yeah I think there is a definite argument that the actual malice standard has been met. Just look at all of Thayer Evans' pieces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-67115608240418815702010-11-10T06:42:54.978-06:002010-11-10T06:42:54.978-06:00Georgia Bulldogs.Georgia Bulldogs.tptoomersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-80555702755831531322010-11-10T06:09:38.534-06:002010-11-10T06:09:38.534-06:00What do we have now...the "allegation de jour...What do we have now...the "allegation de jour". The Bond-Rogers connection looks like it isn't holding water so some other unnamed sources are trotted out with phone calls from the Newtons....anyone checked any phone records for these sources to see that they actually got such calls before running this story out? I haven't tracked the story via ESPN but who in that organization is putting his name of this story?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-51283455209096198982010-11-10T06:00:22.633-06:002010-11-10T06:00:22.633-06:00Is it possible the reason the responses given by b...Is it possible the reason the responses given by both the Newton's and Auburn are so, shall we shall calculated and measured, is because of the legal nature this may all be taking on. Before some of the stories thrown out in the last couple days, I was told they didn't have much in the way of a case for slander. I think somebody may have managed to jump that line with the seeming desperate hurling of stories after being discredited.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-49559589177923817372010-11-10T05:53:34.892-06:002010-11-10T05:53:34.892-06:00What I am most worried about now is that it appear...What I am most worried about now is that it appears there is some serious damning evidence mounting up against Newton and his involvement at Miss St. So it appears Miss. St. and Newton both could get waxed pretty hard over this. <br /><br />The TCU message board thing was saying a booster had tapes of the phone calls. If a booster is involved with recruiting to that level then Miss St. will also face some serious trouble.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14288779743452652275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-58102109333830493372010-11-10T04:02:48.708-06:002010-11-10T04:02:48.708-06:00If AU did this (pay the Newtons which is what is i...If AU did this (pay the Newtons which is what is implied by the Articles out there), they would be committing football program SUICIDE in year 2 of Chizik's rebuilding from Late-Stage Tubby's Disease.<br /><br />Granted, football in the south makes people do stupid things but ... this would be completely beyond the pale.<br /><br />If it's true, wow. How colossally stupid. If it's not true, wow, how easy it is to completely MURDER some kid's reputation.<br /><br />As usual, I imagine the truth is somewhere in the middle. What that means for us as fans, who knows. I may have to switch to my GSU Panthers. Guess they could use a beat reporter, AB! Lord knows if AU gets sanctioned there won't be a lot to write about on this end. Ugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-88361526810882229422010-11-10T02:06:36.362-06:002010-11-10T02:06:36.362-06:00I can't look at this as anything other than MS...I can't look at this as anything other than MSU calling Auburn cheaters. They are being complete cowards about it, but when "recruiters" (coaches) tell the media that Auburn offered "more money," then that is blatant. The SEC needs to get a handle on this situation. They wouldn't put up with coaches calling referees cheaters (on or off the record), so why is this any better? Someone needs to man up or MSU should be punished severely for this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-66424786953167478342010-11-10T01:56:26.049-06:002010-11-10T01:56:26.049-06:00Andy, in reference to your questions, the reason t...Andy, in reference to your questions, the reason the SEC allowed Newton to play and the reason there has been no LOI from the NCAA is that what you see in this latest smear/news report is not actually news to them. They knew about it, looked at it and found it to be not credible.<br /><br />Let me repeat the salient points:<br /><br />1. This is not news. These are the same allegations that were forward to the SEC more than 10 months ago.<br /><br />2. The SEC looked at these allegations and found them to be not credible. That's self evident, because if these claims were credible, Newton would not be on the field.<br /><br />From the ESPN story:<br /><br />***<br /><br /><i>Mississippi State compliance officials relayed the alleged conversations to Southeastern Conference compliance officials in January, according to two other sources close to the football program.</i><br /><br />***<br /><br />There is nothing new here, at least not to anyone (AU, the SEC, MSU, the NCAA) that matters.Romberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16615032861106353267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-48240038752843761142010-11-10T01:10:01.150-06:002010-11-10T01:10:01.150-06:00Somehow, I'm still very skeptical about this r...Somehow, I'm still very skeptical about this report. The last time they used sources from MSU, they had to walk back the entire story. How is this one any different? And the two "sources" recruit for MSU -- are they coaches or boosters? Too many loose ends here. And as others have posted, there's more than one way to read each of the quotes used "more than money" etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-37900109368716527192010-11-10T00:37:21.068-06:002010-11-10T00:37:21.068-06:00It seems really strange to me that when it's s...It seems really strange to me that when it's stated that the FBI is going to interview Bond officially, suddenly the story coming out of MSU is changed to eliminate Bond & to include the Newtons,asking for money by telephone, again something that has no evidence what so ever. Again, the unnamed "sources". This story is so unfair!Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16856632120385849789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-35200332110353145402010-11-09T23:56:36.280-06:002010-11-09T23:56:36.280-06:00Wow,just watched Joe Schad's report and it doe...Wow,just watched Joe Schad's report and it doesn't look good. He's reporting that Cam basically said that Auburn paid them more money than MSU. That's not good. But they say the source told them this. They didn't say they heard the tapes. I guess the bammers might get what they want after all. This sux. Surely those quotes are being taken out of context. For some reason I just don't see Auburn having to pay him to come here. Wow, my uinversity is being trashed all over the airwaves.AUsome04noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-11732758551514410512010-11-09T23:38:16.939-06:002010-11-09T23:38:16.939-06:00Andy,
Any thoughts on why Auburn refused to comme...Andy,<br /><br />Any thoughts on why Auburn refused to comment on the story. If they knew about this, which the report alleges, you would think they'd have a prepared response for this.<br /><br />Why is Miss St allowed to let all these sources talk. Is there any penalty from the NCAA for school reps leaking info to the press?John Stubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02009036955270624470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-34813474617552745652010-11-09T23:36:45.621-06:002010-11-09T23:36:45.621-06:00So Bond said that a former teammate through two le...So Bond said that a former teammate through two levels said it would take $180K-- NOW, we hear from "sources that recruit for Miss. St." that both Newtons talked to them directly. Which is it? And if the strongest quote is "more than a scholarship", that's pretty vague. I recall hearing Cecil say that he thought the supporting cast at Auburn was stronger. Couple that with Auburn's higher profile, closer proximity to home, there are good solid reasons for the choice. Cam had a sense of loyalty to Mullen and a desire to go with what he knew-- what was familiar. Dad could see the bigger picture. The crux is, there is either evidence of money changing hands or there isn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-43859874690364502022010-11-09T23:28:42.203-06:002010-11-09T23:28:42.203-06:00Good and interesting to read about the SEC and, pr...Good and interesting to read about the SEC and, presumably NCAA, and their information is pretty good to read.<br /><br />__________________ <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.dissertationswriting.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">dissertation Writing</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417060437461267984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-67244915488013650292010-11-09T23:13:52.309-06:002010-11-09T23:13:52.309-06:00I think I understand now...
MSU probably feels th...I think I understand now...<br /><br />MSU probably feels the walls closing in now that the FBI has taken the case on. <br /><br />Initially, they were trying to create plausible deniability if any wrongdoings were to be uncovered in Cam's recruitment. They felt like they could deal with NCAA investigators. With the FBI on the scene, they are panicking and we can probably expect them to spew unsubstantiated stories until the truth comes out.<br /><br />Write it down.RWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-28638262179159939592010-11-09T23:04:07.628-06:002010-11-09T23:04:07.628-06:00If MSU was willing to pay for Newton and were mad ...If MSU was willing to pay for Newton and were mad he didn't commit doesn't that set their school up for sanctions? (Ok, I promise this is my last post for a while)AUsome04noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-34180892898064618042010-11-09T23:03:55.524-06:002010-11-09T23:03:55.524-06:00I feel like we have a great compliance department ...I feel like we have a great compliance department and great coaches who are good people. Above and beyond that I think they are all very smart. Until I see actual, solid proof, I refuse to think of Cam as anything but a kid being strangled by the national sports media.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16351220706953770864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-5685842785994251682010-11-09T23:01:36.574-06:002010-11-09T23:01:36.574-06:00All I can say is, never in my young life do I reme...All I can say is, never in my young life do I remember so many sequential allegations coming out, nor ever this many anonymous sources.<br /><br />Not with Kobe, not with Duke Lacrosse, not with Tim Donaghy, not with Barry Bonds.<br /><br />We can at least say that this certainly is unprecedented.Justinhttp://www.thewareaglereader.com/author/justin-lee/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-79846100902260575442010-11-09T23:00:02.859-06:002010-11-09T23:00:02.859-06:00I feel the same as James does. But there's som...I feel the same as James does. But there's something about all these 'reports' that are starting to make me nervous. I'll stick behind Cam as long as I can. I just can't follow this either way. Why would Cam be low enough to even ask for money, even if his brother is a Jaguar backup? And if Bond and Rogers were trying to make money off of him, how did they not know they would get caught? It just seems as though noone can win in this situation. Its just really stupid.Clint Richardsonhttp://www.richlandgolf.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-607864319113145554.post-30825680956057131122010-11-09T22:59:34.637-06:002010-11-09T22:59:34.637-06:00So Cecil wanted money, yet Miss St kept recruiting...So Cecil wanted money, yet Miss St kept recruiting Newton. Something about that does not add up....Also ESPN is reporting hearsay now. There is no mention of recordings of these converstions.WokDontRunnoreply@blogger.com